AB Meeting 11pm Friday 7/14/95 Everything will be reduced to writing and will be published All AB votes will be published in the CommQ including proxy designations. Will meet with each member in a room across the hall Contents of the AB packet non-discussable during this weekend -- not to appear on any electronic service while conference is going on. Only discussing with AB. All motions to be approved by the AB will occur during this weekend. 1-3pm AB meeting tomorrow. after dinner Saturday night Open meeting on Sunday Each AB member is asked to consider a primary and secondary choice for the standing committees of the Admiralty Board. From the AB packet: The Admiralty Board shall be divided into four standing committees. The Commander, STARFLEET and Vice Commander, STARFLEET shall sit as ex officio members of all committees. The standing committees shall receive detailed information on areas under their review and shall be provided the opportunity to initiate policy recommendations with respect to their areas of review. Each AB member shall serve on one committee and shall serve a period of two years on that committee. In the event of a vacancy, the committee assignment will be filled by the individual next named to serve that office. The standing committees are: Finance Committee: This committee shall have general supervision of the financial matters of the Fleet, including the creation of the annual budget and regular reports on the financial condition of the Fleet. The guideline to the full AB for approval. The administration will authorize only those expenditures that have been approved by the budget and any supplementary budget authorizations of the AB. This committee will receive copies of the semi-annual audit report from the CPA and teh Statement of Financial Condition report at year end. Utilizing this information, the Finance Committee would be in a position to recommend various financial controls to assure compliance with all federal regulations. Scholarship Committee: This committee shall have general supervision over the Scholarship Program and the administration of those funds entrusted to STARFLEET on behalf of future scholarship recipients. The committee shall initiate policy recommendations that govern the Scholarship Program and how it shall be awarded. Corporate Committee: This committee shall have general supervision over the corporate records, requirements and legal aspects of the association. The committee shall receive copies of the annual tax returns submitted on behalf of the association and any other information relevant to the corporate or legal concerns of the association. The committee shall initiate policy recommendatinos to assure that STARFLEET complies with all federal, state and international laws. The Corporate Committee will receive copies of various CPA reports and the annual Statement of Financial Condition report that will be attached to the annual tax return. Membership Committee: This committee shall have general supervision over all matters affecting the general membership, chapters and regions where not already assigned to another standing committee. Policy matters affecting the Fleet as a whole are initiated in this committee. No committee shall have exclusive jurisdiction over any matter and every AB member is free to submit proposals, motions, etc. to the Admiralty Board for consideration. However, in general, motions, proposals, etc. should be referred to the committee exercising general supervision over the matter to assure that an appropriate address of teh matter is held and that no duplicative work is being done. The standing committees shall not exercise any authority, power or position inconsistent with the STARFLEET Constitution and all committees shall work with the appropriate members of teh Executive Committee to develop policy, receive answers to questions and to address specific concerns. --------------->8------------snip----snip------------>8--------------- AB Meeting 1-3pm Saturday 7/15/95 Roll call AB coordinator and Jeannette Maddox, EC Standing Committees of STARFLEET AB and their purpose discussed. Divide functions of SF into four major groups Finance: general finances, approved budget budget blueprint for the 'fleet to operate under: guideline and spend w/in those guidelines may need to expand the budget for various reasons (postage increases, membership increases) review financial records, semiannual audit approval arm is AB for any budget condition of SF assets (needed for adjustments as necessary) 5 members detailed level information bout SF's financial condition creating the committee requires modification of the constitution. if SF incurred legal or accounting expenses, will need to authorize a closed end figure before money is spent. Scholarship Administration of funds funds are separate from the general funds selection process, how applicants decided 11 scholarships and only 8 applicants need to write to scholarship director for application form and instructions to apply for the scholarship. has been in CommQ. Coyote R12: can the info go into the CommQ and CSR on a constant basis as we have new people come in. What will happen to Sue Hampton's position?? McGinnis: this is more of an oversight group. Ravitch R15: should be part of information that is "Frequently Asked Questions" useful in the CommQ on an ongoing basis. Coyote R12: Add in the membership packets and handbook. Flyer?? Ravitch (R15) will design flyer and Coyote will answer some of the questions (content). Corporate Committee: corporate records, tax returns, handle legal concerns. Committee will send the notice to the whole AB about the taxes being completed and signed. Not all the RCs received copies of the information this year Specifications to meet corporate requirements (checklist) Membership: Miscellaneous General supervision over all other matters Each will serve on only one committee. No committee will have exclusive jurisdiction over any matter. Any AB member will be free to submit proposal or motion and will probably will be handed over to the proper committee. If we send anything out, it will require 45 days for an answer (overseas). However if committee does not contain an international member, it can move faster. Smith R7: Is the committee static? McG: yes. Length of service? rotate? staggered terms? Decker R4: need a committee supervisor. Longer term than CS and staggered terms. Need to have consistency on all committees across administrations. Constitution will be amended to prevent "clean house" removal of committees. Staggered terms the first way to go. Once the term is over, if the RC stays, go to another committee. ------- Motion for terms Objection: Raised concerns of Wheaton issue and current crisis in leadership Brought up by R5, noted and "out of order" R4 put on record for objection along with R5,7,14,17,15 constitutional amendments need to be brought to the general membership. AB only gives approval of motions. R4 objects for amendments being proposed in this fashion. There was limited time for going over materials (9 hours tops) which is not proper for a corporate board meeting. McGinnis: R4 will object on everything and is dilatory tactics. Objection noted Number of members for the committees: 5-5-5-6 even regions 2 year term, odd regions 1 year initially EC? on for duration of office. If there is a tie in membership committee, the chair has overriding vote AB95-0012 as motion as stated above: we need this in writing... Dan is writing as fast as he can. Gag rule review. Unicorn objects to gag order. It is a violation to members writes and responsibilities (quoting from membership handbook). Right to voice opinion at any level of meeting. Motion on the floor: The initial terms of office on each committee shall be 2 years for members of even regions and 1 year for members of odd numbered regions. Thereafter, each member will serve for two years. The EC shall serve for the duration of their term. The committee will determine how ties are to be broken. In the event that a committee member is unable to complete their office for any reason, their successor will complete the term for the committee that they are serving upon. 18 yes 5 abstains (R5: active abstention along with R4, R7, R14, R17) -------- Family membership rate adjustment. Executive Order #30 modified family rate memberships. The original intent of this change in membership rates was to establish a easier processing procedure for all memberships and to adjust family members accordingly. It was not implemented at request of some families. Considerations: wanting to join as single, two or 3 members families of 15-25 people (not the intent of family rate) Membership packets to each family but only one CommQ. Not everyone interested in having own family membership packet. Leafey (R1): Each person wants own handbook Ravitch (R15): and membership cards but not necessarily separate CommQ more real active, voting members Decker(R4): define family as related by blood, marriage, guardianship or life partnership residing in the same household. Policing: check the application when it comes in Motion: The membership category of "household" shall be substituted for family. Household membership shall consist of 2 members at $22 and 3-10 members at $25 per year. Additional members are $2 each. Household shall be defined as related by blood, marriage, guardianship or life partnership residing in the same household. The new pricing structure shall take effect 1/1/96. passed with voice vote (without roll call) ----- AB 95-0004 Honorary and lifetime memberships Leafey R1: break into two separate resolutions No problem 95-0004 honorary Leafey R1: If we are trying to save money, then why are we doing this? Is this only a PR thing?? For most of the stars don't really care and it is a waste of money. Ravitch R15: If they show interest or request honorary membership can have it. Murphy-Tompkins R11: Ask the star and let that ship pay for that particular star. Let that ship be responsible. At that point, it is not an honorary membership. Definition of "major star"?? Leafey R1: eliminate honorary category as written in motion. Motion: Resolved by the AB that the honorary membership category be removed. Roll call: 7-10-6 (R4, R5, R7, R14, R17 Cavalier abstain) R6, and others Reynolds, Nelson, McGinnis, Bjo, Glenn, Krell: Nay Compromise change wording: STARFLEET shall offer an honorary membership to any interested actor or actress. Compromise 2: Send a complementary copy of CommQ for a year. Then ask if they want to continue. If they are reading it, they will sign up. Otherwise, stop sending. STARFLEET shall offer an honorary membership to any interested actor or actress. A complementary subscription to the Communique shall be offered for a period of one year. After that time, their subscription will be renewed upon request. (more or less) Motion passes 95-0014 for lifetime memberships Lifetime memberships to past Commander, STARFLEET STARFLEET shall grant lifetime membership to each Commander, STARFLEET upon the completion of his/her elected term of office, provided that such action is approved by a simple majority of Admiralty Board. Lifetime membership is extended to the former Commander, STARFLEET only and may not be extended to any family members and shall not be revoked by any subsequent Admiralty Board. This resolution shall recognize that every individual who has served as Commander, STARFLEET prior to January 1, 1995 has been awarded lifetime membership. moved by EC as written. motion agreed to with voice vote (no roll call). ----- Student membership program Coyote (R12): initial packet 1 adult and 5 kids in a particular age group. This shall be offered to educational institutions or groups (?). Proposed cost for this for a year is $45. A $5 charter for how to set this out. Self-inclusive membership. Children have no vote and one CQ. They have the advantage of going to OTS and having their own activities. $5 for each additional child up to 25 students. Each child gets a note pad, ID, magnet and pin Chartered by a space station?? outpost?? Legal standpoint: problem with this?? need to ask legal council. Refer to membership committee and table it for now. ----- Region 7 states that for all these voice votes, Region 7 is actively abstaining on the grounds raised earlier (Questar issue). R4, R5, R14 and R17 are also abstaining on the same basis. ----- Will reassemble after banquet. Meet at 8pm. --------------->8------------snip----snip------------>8--------------- Modification of mailing packets: Computer Operations has a proposal to reduce the cost of processing membership packets and to increase the turnaround time for receiving membership materials. (p.3 in AB booklet) Proposal: The membership packet will be mailed to all US residents by bulk rate. The membership packet would contain the handbook, memo pad, premium gift, vessel registry and academy application. Under separate cover, the membership certificate sheet would be mailed by first class mail. This speeds up the process of delivering membership materials into the hands of the new and renewing members and provides a tremendous savings on postage costs. Bulk rate rules require a 200 piece minimum per mailing. New and renewing members arrive in excess of 250 pieces per two week period. Therefore, packets could be processed and mailed every two weeks in the US. The membership certificate would be mailed by first class mail upon completion. These are generated weekly and would be mailed each week following the printing time. The following chart will show the savings: Description Current cost Proposed cost USA Mailing of packet $1.70 $0.266 Bulk Rate Mailing of certificate N/A $0.32 Domestic ----------------------------------------------------------- $1.70 $0.586 savings of $1.12 (approximately $7000 saved per year) International memberships would continue to be processed in the same manner. Leafey R1: whole membership packet should get there in one piece double risk - things already get lost how prove never got other part of the packet want to give them something for the enthusiasm about the new member. Need to do more cost/benefit analysis Ravitch R15 concurs Suggestion to use second class mailing. STARFLEET was not approved for second class mailing need to have principal educational or religious (c7 and not c3) Weaver R14: is there a discount for non-profit groups and what can be given to the chapters? Ravitch R15: need to improve compops turnaround time Smith R7: look at aspect of solving problem new members: first class enact for new members? Paradis Berkenbilt R5: Are we really that strapped for funds that we need to consider this? Bulk-rate is not guaranteed and timeliness is an issue. not strapped for funds. proposal from compops. stand alone motion. fall under the purvue of the finance committee SF application in the packet Motion: refer to committee motion carries [LNPB notes on mailings: For first class, there is no discount for non-profit. There is, however, a discount for 3/5 presort. 3/5 refers to either the first 3 digits of the zip are the same (carries a green 3 label) or all 5 digits of the zip are the same (direct, or red "D" label). A minimum of 125 pieces is needed in each bunch (a 3 bunch or a 5 bunch). Obviously, the only STARFLEET mailing that would apply to is the bimonthly Communique. There are fees for the postal permit, plus the one-time fee for the permit number. For bulk rate, there is the postal permit and a fee for permission to mail at the lower rate, both of which are annual fees.] ----- Foreign distribution of materials R13: central point for Canada beneficial for mail to get around two weeks turnaround take memberships in Canadian dollars and send money across when exchange rate is better for us. R13 coordinator is a lawyer and is familiar with Canadian law. Weaver R14: felt likewise Suggestion: possibility of assigning blocks of SCC numbers for each international region for immediate distribution of packets. Who will control this distribution?? April Gorman and Pam Goyer (CO Astra) fully prepared to process memberships. Paradis Berkenbilt R5: What about the Internal Affairs work that was done? McGinnis: There was an International Affairs Task Force, not a committee. Cindy Krell: International is in our name and this is in the natural progression. Can work the kinks out with Canada. Decker R4 POI: tax foreign currency on our non-profit status will have to file for federal non-profit status in Canada. R13: takes longer to get federal non-profit, but easier than 10 provinces and 2 territories for filing. Motion: refer this to committee Passed. ----- Promotion Criteria and Procedure p.5 in the AB book: The Executive Committee considers promotion requests for all ranks above Commander on a monthly (or somewhat monthly) basis. Recommendations must come from someone other than the nominee and should provide as much information as is useful for the EC to consider. All promotion requests are assigned an Executive Order number and those which are approved are published in the Command Status Report. STARFLEET Headquarters issues promotion certificates to all candidates who are approved for promotions. Nominees that are denied are generally denied due to a lack of sufficient information. You may resubmit a nominee at any time. As a general rule, the Executive Committee will not consider candidates for another flag promotion within a six month period from the last promotion. Each member of the EC has a different criteria for granting promotions. Multiple nominations of the same individual receive higher consideration by the EC as due all promotinos recommended by Region Coordinators. (endquote) Make sure that we are recognizing members when they reach a certain level. Leafey R1: refer this to committee criteria for approval, etc captain and above OCC OTS qualified minimum number of nominations approved by COs RC has a lot more weight than going directly to HQ still needs to go to HQ Coyote R12: longer than 6 mos between promotions, more like 18 months Motion: refer to committee Passed. ---- Nomination to fill vacancies: policy and procedures AB 96-0005 It is resolved by the Admiralty Board, that all appointments by the Commander, STARFLEET to fill vacancies created on the Executive Committee shall be submitted to the Admiralty Board for confirmation. The Commander, STARFLEET may appoint any officer to fill a temporary vacancy, pending approval by a simple majority of the Admiralty Board. Prior to the appointment of a new Region Coordinator, each commanding officer in the affected region shall be polled by the Commander, STARFLEET for a nomination of a candidate to serve as their next Region Coordinator. If the Commander, STARFLEET does not select the candidate who shall receive the most votes from Commanding Officers in the affected region, he shall submit, along with a reason why the majority candidate was not appointed, the name of his appointee to the Admiralty Board for confirmation prior to the nominee taking office. If a simple majority of the Admiralty Board shall agree, the nominee shall be appointed and assume office. It is further resolved, that the Constitution of STARFLEET shall be amended in all appropriate articles and sections to include the affect of this resolution. (endquote) Leafey R1: seconds motion as written Pense R3: membership handbook needs to be rewritten to reflect this Ravitch R15: In naming of Wayne, there was a question about advance notice Decker R4: reflective of RCs are appointed by CS? McGinnis: if the majority of COs in a region vote for an RC, then the CS can approve or deny (with reason) the RC of choice Ravitch R15: chapters have made it clear that they want a much stronger voice. Smith R7: COs serve at pleasure of its chapter, why not RC Sashi: constitutional reform committee: change on selection of RCs as given in task force report Roll Call: Y: R1,2,3, 10, 11 12, 13, 16 Cavalier, Reynolds, Trimble, Glenn, Krell, Nelson, McGinnis N: R4, R7, 14, 17 A: R5 ----- Chapter Charter Program: Due to depletion of funds STARFLEET can no longer afford to continue services such as the CSR, updated copies of the Vessel Registry, membership rosters, etc. after the first chartered year for each chapter. 1) Once commissioned, a charter will be good for one year from the date of issue. To renew the chapter's charter, a yearly fee will be assessed. Upon receipt of the renewal fee, a new charter is issued. Implementing this on newly commissionsed chapters will require the charter the to show a date of expiration. For chapters presently holding a charter, a renewal date must be set. 2) Leafey R1: Ops put together a draft on this benefits: chapter roster CSR vessel registry master forms anything provided to the chapters at all Paradis Berkenbilt R5: After talking to Robert Hilton, he felt that SF does not offer enough benefits to justify $10-$15 per year. (sounds of astonished disbelief) Annual audit is $1200, money has to come from somewhere Ops: if handling chapter financial reports, need to pay for the handling. LNPB proposed referring to committee for further review. McG: Referring to committee is not considered Ravitch R15: Reduced fee if willing to accept over electronic means Others: not fair to non-electronic chapters R6: motion to accept as written with amount as $10, R3 seconds Effective January 1 and will start 1/1/96 Commissioning date?? Decker R4: Need a specific date or administrative nightmare. Tax consequence of chartering chapters? Charging a fee of a chapter that is an affiliate organization that need to report to fleet for income and activities. Krell: Prorated fee for first year make it $12 Gives it a break to new chapters No: R4,5,7,14,17 Yes: everyone else A: 15 (not w/o polling chapters) Passed 17-5-1 ----- 95-0002 Hilton Resolutions Bjo: "Paramount Approved" is dangerous. Paramount only cares about money and knows piddling about Trek. taken down ** sorry ----- 95-0003 7-14-2 fail. Sorry. Vote: Y: 1,4,5,7,9,14,15 N: 2,3,6,10,11,12,13,16,17,Reynolds, Bjo, Glenn, Deborah, Dan A: Wayne C., Krell ----- 95-0016 Modifications to membership handbook shall not be adopted without approval by a simple majority of the AB. Passes (compromise, Robert) ---- Decker: Has the membership handbook ever been approved by AB? McG: Since when did that ever happen? McG: It was provided to all the RCs before, but not asked for approval. ----- Composition of Regions (p 8): more consistency for the definition of regions R12: move to keep regions as they are R15: comment: agree, but some concern that in this body, a region with one chapter has one vote, but region with 100 chapters has same number of votes. R16: Hawaii removed from 16 and moved to R4 Can anyone tell us why?? Is there any way to move it back to 16?? Request has been informally requested by R16 because there are some military people in R16 that are being transferred to Hawaii (interest in forming a shuttle). They can use APO addresses and cheaper to mail so can go w/o additional cost. (MikeD: does not cost anything additional if sent to continental US) R3: phone calls cheaper base to base. Moved to R4 because it is part of US. R1: Legal ramifications R10 includes Alaska Substitute motion: Leave all current regional alignments as exist with the exception of Hawaii and R4 subject to investigation on the impact on the tax situation. Decker: POI: legal issues of US territories and international regions. R9 will eventually need to be divided up McG move to table the motion. TABLED. ----- City of Charter Resolution Clarification AB95-0011 As close as can be with the original verbiage. R1/Ops: Can petition for a change chapter has to approve it Longfellow example. CO elected that lived over an hour away, in another metro area and there was a new shuttle forming in his own area. Mike H: The elected CO wanted to be part of the ship R15: prevent region jumping R1: If CO is not in same geographic area, does that make him ineligible of being the CO of the chapter?? RCs call McG: Need to write it down: Decker motion with Ravitch amendment: Each chapter must select a City of Charter. This city must be within a reasonable distance of the residence of the CO and in the same geographic area. The City of Charter of a correspondence chapter shall be the city of residence of its CO. "Reasonable distance" and "same geographic area" are to be determined by ShOC and the affected RCs. Should the chapter desire to change its City of Charter, such change must be with the concurrence of the Chief of Operations and both affected RCs if more than one RC is involved. The Vessel Registry shall include in its listing of the Chapter the most current City of Charter, or if a correspondence chapter a designation that the chapter is a correspondence chapter and the city of residence of the CO. AB95-0011: Passed with one objection from R11 (MM-T) Next session tomorrow at 8am --------------->8------------snip----snip------------>8--------------- Operations packet of information. Available electronically in Word version 6.0. EC just came out of a meeting Resolutions for immediate response EC by unanimous vote Removed Janis Moore as Region 4 coordinator Why: Maquis: Bjo: disloyalty to the group to tear down the SF organization. Reports of people who do not want to support the Maquis Decker: Janis does not even have an account Bjo: Some people in Seattle state they communicate with her via email McG: Have received information from several COsin the region. Does not like "dilatory tactics" that have been demonstrated. Krell: All this interest in Dan's affairs may or may not have anything to do with STARFLEET. When the courts take action, then have something concrete to deal with. Continued disruption in the fleet, $$$ spent on phone calls, does not agree with everything Dan has done, the business aspect of the fleet is better than it has been before. Any forceful removal of Dan/Deb will tear this organization to shreds. Innocent until proven guilty. Not in the constitution to oust him on these grounds. Decker: tradition of political debate and questioning authority where it can be questioned. Circumscribing debate is contrary to American culture. Find and site violations to the officers code of conduct. Not interested in what Janis has to say. R1: Linda Neighbors states that the she should be censured at most. She deserves the right to defend herself. Ops have received reports. If she is to be removed, then on the grounds of not reporting and fulfilling her duties as an RC. R5: what about the VoC?? not official. Mike Hennigan quotes from the net. Interpreted the "not returned in time" as "no"? [that's not right] Coyote concurs with the failure to report not fulfilling duties. Heard from RCs from across the organization about what they think about Janis. Despite that the "RCs and EC" from around the world have called about this. R7, 15: Drastic action is not warranted. R10,16 not present R14 abstain Motion 95-0017 removal of Janis Moore Passes 15-5-1 (9:06am) ----- EC unanimous vote for removal of Alan Ravitch as RC Involvement of some parties who are not looking out for the general welfare of this organization. Plans to distribute information to tear down this organization (McGinnis?) Bill Hermann Chain of Command of this leadership. Appointment as Subspace Comms, dedicated life to communicating and being friends with everyone in STARFLEET. Think they know me and one thing is not someone who operates outside duly elected leadership of this organization. Address AB and EC and stay in complete solidarity with EC. Elimination of STARFLEET geared to destroy the fabric of this leadership. Spoken to his counsel in SC, and wife who is concerned about affiliation with entire controversy. Communicated concerns regarding the Questar matter. In the middle of the communication, aims were for resolution. Tried to get truth of what the controversy was. Prepared to name names. In the Wil Wheaton controversy, something was done outside of his authority. His letter about this as well as a letter by Chief of Staff of SF were distributed to the Wheatons and as a result, Wil Wheaton made a taped statement. Alan Ravitch asks for evidence EC and McGinnis Will not produce the evidence Alan states: nothing to do with the distribution of the correspondence with David Miller. Hermann will let the EC decide on this. Alan Ravitch: says that it should be done with the same due process as they demand of themselves. Asserting right that no member may violate another member's legal rights. Will stand by that provision of the STARFLEET constitution. Charges: McG: multi-fold All the differeces between this administration and Alan could be resolved. The bulk of discontent occurs over the Internet. It occurs in public when it has not occurred in private. Alan sent out a ballot to the RCs, but did not send it to the administartion. Used the CPA retained (and volunteered his services: AR) but is still in the employ of STARFLEET AR: No RC received any fax that they did not ask to send them R11 MMT: Region 11's wish to be removed immediately. Article 2 section 2 Over the last 6 months, Internet used to slander STARFLEET. Tried to destroy the very fabric of STARFLEET. Violation of a law: slander and libel. It is the wish of Region 11 that under article 4 section 2 of the STARFLEET constitution that the RC is appointed by the CS. Attempted to intervene in the internal politics of other regions. In addition, abused the officer's code of conduct: [listing the officers code.] These are the words that we as pacesetters of STARFLEET that we must live by and have violated this code. On behalf of R11 and EC, move to be immediately removed and permanently removed as a member of STARFLEET. McG: expansion of the motion. These decisions are not something to be taken lightly. We are not feeling that this is rocking the very fiber of this administration. We had had enough. Time for tough decisions. Time for SF to move on. Spent a lot of time to keep the organization to move the modern SF forward. Watched dilatory tactics (congrat Alan on continuing to represent his region). Erik: R16 seconds Linda (R13), personally approached on the Internet by Alan for her support but cannot produce that support. R13 is in full support of the current administration: seen them working, going forward, and seeing results. This is the way SF should be run. The attempt by certain factions to remove the current administration, we will be going the way of IFT. If don't want to be in the same vein as IFT, then feel these actions are necessary. Hennigan: what goes on on the net. Have posted fact when had fact and posted disillusionment on certain views. Agrees and disagrees with Dan. Tried to post fact from CNN and when posted that they had no interest in this affair, Alan was antagonistic. Continued disagreement with Alan's tactics on the net. IG wishes to take a stand. Fan the flames and this conduct is unconscionable. AR: commend Jack for the record to have the courage to do this. IG asks us to step down. R1: Alan is the only RC who has 100% reporting record, Region behind him. Conduct on the net has been such that has overstepped his bounds and hoped for compromise, but there is no other way to go. AR: appreciates where he is coming from. Actions took felt were in the best interest of his region. While there are times that he has been overexuberant, but felt he did what he had to do and this body is doing what it feels it has to do. R7: Alan and I really don't get along. There have been some points where have agreed and disagreed. Unfortunately, cannot make a decision like this w/o contacting Vosseller. Will have to abstain from the voting. In this instance, could not stand up and say that he would be impartial because would prefer to have it come from his region. AB95-0018 R1 personal thing and overstepped position Firm censure: NO R2,3,6,10,11,12,13,16 and EC: yes R4,14: no R5,7,9,14: abstain 15 not eligable to vote Motion passses: 15-3-4 Alan respectively makes the request to have R15 have a proxy secured. Does he have to leave. MMT: takes what is heard and spreads it around the world. AR: doesn't want to stay and ashamed to be in SF. It will destroy SF more than anything he has done. Not done by me, it will come from chapters and members. Bjo: people are scared to death of Alan and Maquis and will not join SF because of this. Jeannette Maddox: The more deeply you feel about something, the more emotional you get aobut it. What are we doing? This is all pretend, and a TV show and people are getting all upset over a TV show. It is more than that, it is a way of life. It is a set of ideals for us to live by. t is more than lip service. When make a decision based on What would Roddenberry do, what would spock or picard do? It is way of looking at one's fellow man, one's world and one's universe. SF when it began, was a small fan club haivng fun and it grew and grew and went thru period in which the guy (gal) who could out politic everyone else, make the good guy say the hell with this and leave. Whoever who could be the meanest and outlast and run everyone else off. We have become a creditable organization with goals that were unheard of. SF is still a very fragile flower. SF has to be nurtured, not pummelled into place. Disagreement and discussion is the backbone of any organization, but want to say that it is alright to disagree, but not character assignation. A lot of people did not agree with things I did or Rob did. Cannot help an organization by quitting. People did not always agree with things that Rob did. Some things Dan does I wouldn't do the same way. It is alright to send them all the letters you want, ... but subversive tactics, you can't do it. SF is too fragile. If at this time, the factions who have been trying to get rid of Dan and his administration, if these factions succeed, by forcing some kind of vote or harming Dan to the extent he quits, it hurts when people assignate your character when you are doing your best for an organization. If Dan and the administration is removed, SF will go under... it will fractionate. Disagree with Dan all you want, but don't destroy the fleet!! Too many people have put their lives into this organization. Hours and hours spent talking over piddling stupid things about where a chapter goes. Dammit, who cares where a chapter goes. We do this because it is part of being fleet and giving members the opportunity to do this. Spend these hours because we love the fleet. Send all your objections you have to Dan. Quit trying to get rid of this administration. Don't destroy 21 years of building. Don't destroy the structure that 8000 people have come to love. SF means so much to so many people because we meet the kind of people we are kin to. ... Care so much that they go through hell, up here where the air is rare is where the special people are. That's us. The rest of the world does not know because they are not up here with us. ... It is our responsibility to provide a place of comfort or refuge. Keep infighting among ourselves. Deborah Nelson: Cancelled all the panels in this room to give time to address these issues. Could have put people in that could have supported us and didn't. As long as people operated in support of their region as required as STARFLEET, that they should remain in office, as long as they follow the officer's code of conduct. Atmosphere where we have been constantly targeted by innuendo and incomplete statements and falsified information, either done under a name or anonymously. Personally, it has been very upsetting to me in a time of trial. Not why I went to work for SF. Will stick it out and intend to stick it out. We owe the people [panels cancelled] a public apology. Alan and I have never seen eye to eye. Commend Alan because no matter how much tried to be an obstructionist, but cast a vote and opinion and held his member's interest to heart. It was a personal problem Alan has that was the cause of his removal. Could not support him any further in his personal attacks. Mike: Issue has relevance to SF. The business is the business and the friendships are the friendships. SF and a lot of this weekend, SF is just us. "All my best friends have SCC numbers." I would not be surprised if I were next on this little hit parade. Safe trouble and aggrivation and send in aggrivation. This is ludicrist. We are all supposed to be here serving the membership, if he feels that not serving membership, then save the trouble and will send in resignation. Krell: There is an effect with the Wil Wheaton issue. In removing the current administration, but things are running better. It is personal business and stands with admin. This removal is destroying fleet. Decker: Do not be afraid of well meaning criticsm. If it looks to be an extreme position, the one thing that keep hearing is ... everyone keeps talking about Nixon and Watergate, if there has been a fearless exposition of the administration, do not be afraid to do that. The universal philosophy is utmost compassion. R4 is perceiving and if we cannot change the perception, we can alter the reality. They are perceiving a stiff-arm, a distancing. The SF hug is all encoumpasing. Don't be afraid about what has happened. McG: No discussion about fear of information. When litigation is pending, certain things cannot be talked about. There is a whole fleet here and tried to make this perfectly clear. List of issues inherited from previous administrations. The EC has no intention... Bjo: fears of other people who did not want to be character assignated by Maquis and Ravitch. I'm not afraid because I am a professional. If one person says [he/she] will not buy a book because of my association with STARFLEET, I will sue the rear end off this group. I am being quoted in places where there are no quotes from me. ... [If misquoting her, "someone's ass is grass"] I have no fear of the Internet. Eric R16: tried to stay out of it, but... Go back about 7 years when it happened on a much smaller scale. I was involved in something on this on a smaller state. It took 7 years for that state to recover from the slander. [People identified the group as ] "you talk bad about people"... and it wasn't published as widely. [goes on about hearsay] You can make someone say anything that you damn well want to. [This is ] Publishing on a much larger scale. How expect fleet to survive this? Speaking from experience. [more kvetching and posturing] Issues not resolved are going to be referred to committee. ----- AB95-0019 It is resolved by the AB That STARFLEET, The International Star Trek Fan Association is its members. It is further resolved that the AB does NOT support the use of personal attacks and character assaignation. It is further resolved that STARFLEET: TISFA and its members should endeavor to work together for the betterment of STARFLEET and our lives. Passes unanimously. ----- nothing else for the AB to discuss. Have the morning panels in the afternoon so the membership get what they are looking for. Will have the AB meetings shortened. Kelly and Mike's suggestion for closing. --------------->8------------snip----snip------------>8---------------